Pre Life__ Life__Post life


Touched By An Angel

Virtually all topics concerning life are covered in the vast
and varied discourses of the Talmud.

  • Pre – Life
  • Life
  • After – life

In Talmud Niddah (30b),
the sages discuss the experiences of a baby
while in the womb ,
as it passes from life in the womb
to life out of the womb:


“It [the fetus] is also taught all the Torah from beginning to end, for it is said,
‘And He taught me, and said to me: Let your heart hold fast My words,
keep My commandments and live,’ (Proverbs 4:4) …
As soon as it sees the light, an angel approaches,
slaps it on its mouth and causes it to forget all the Torah completely,
as it is said, ‘Sin crouches at the door’(Genesis 4:7)…”


While a child is still in the uterus, according to the Midrash,
an angel teaches it all of the Torah.
When the child passes into the world,
the angel touches the child just above the lips,
creating the vertical groove between the upper lip and the nose (philtrum),
and the child forgets everything he/she had known.


Great, so once we knew everything, but now we don’t.
What’s the point?


In this way, when a person is confronted with emet, with truth,
emanating from the Torah, he/she will be more likely to recognize it and be drawn to it.
An example:
the mitzvah not to steal.
Your average person will feel that this is just an obvious law.
But it is obvious only because it is something that was learned years before
in that “mysterious” time just before we entered the world.

I know this sounds completely foreign to some of the views held by certain tribes of believers.
I do not set this forth as any particular tenet of faith necessary for working out the salvation of our soul ,
Phl 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only,
but now much more in my absence,
work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

I am persuaded that within our spirit there exists “spiritual”  DNA
A “book of life” with all that Father is , within us .
This is a book written and encoded with Divine Nature  Attributes .
We are vested with Eternal Life or as I like to say , LIFE of the ETERNAL .
Everything Father is , so are we .
2Cr 13:11
Young’s Literal Translation
Henceforth, brethren, rejoice; be made perfect, be comforted, be of the same mind, be at peace,
and the God of the love and peace shall be with you .
King James Version
Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace;
and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

We are pre-existant in the Father . Before I (Randy) was … I am
I am existing in eternity , without beginning or end , a priest unto El Elyon forever .
I am writing this to comfort some who mourn , and are discomfited with guilt or sorrow .
I have much more to say concerning pre-existance but I will save that for another time .

The Gemara to the Babylonian Talmud discusses
and explains the individual sentences of the Mishnah,
and also contains a mass of

  • legends,
  • aphorisms,
  • haggadic interpretations
  • maxims

of which may serve as illustrations:

“An angel appointed for the purpose takes the germ from which a human being is to be born,
presents it to God, and asks: ‘Lord of the world, what manner of man shall be born of this germ,
strong or weak,
wise or foolish,
rich or poor?’
but he does not ask whether he shall be righteous or unrighteous,
for that depends wholly on the will of the man” (16b).

“The happiest time for man is while he is in the womb, for he is instructed in the entire Torah;
but when he is about to go forth into the world, the angel smites him on the mouth and causes him to forget all he has learned.
He is then adjured: ‘Be thou holy in thy life and not unholy; for know that God is pure,
His ministers are pure, and the soul which is breathed into thee is pure.
If thou keepest it in purity, it is well; but otherwise it shall be taken from thee’ “(30b).

Return and Re-Learn

There are no better days in a person’s life than those he spends in his mother’s womb before birth, where he is taught the entire Torah. Just as he enters the world an angel comes and gives him a slap on his lips, causing him to forget what he has learned.

This fascinating account of our pre-natal learning experience is cited by some commentaries as the explanation of the custom to visit the home of a newborn boy the Shabbos eve before his bris milah and to eat there cooked chickpeas. The child is considered a mourner because of the Torah he has forgotten, and the visitors come to console him and to partake of the round-shaped traditional mourner’s food which symbolizes the eternal circle of life and death.

But why is it necessary for the unborn baby to learn the Torah if he is destined to forget it at birth?

The explanation offered by the great Chassidic leader, Rabbi Zvi Elimelech of Dinov, in his classic “Bnei Yissaschar” is that the Divine wisdom of Torah is beyond the grasp of human intellect. Without a pre-natal exposure to this wisdom it would be as unattainable as aerial flight is for fish. But a problem arises if man is born with a complete knowledge of Torah, for then he is no longer faced with the challenge to learn it and thus be eligible for the great reward which comes for Torah study.

The Divine solution is to expose us to Torah before birth
and cause every learning experience to be a ” deja vous ”  adventure.

This may also explain why our prayer in our three regular daily services is
“return us to Your Torah.”
We have all been there already before we were born
and all we have to do is return.


  • Niddah 30b


I would like to add at this point :

Ecc 3:21
Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward,
and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Ecc 11:5
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit,
nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child:
even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

Ecc 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Please leave comments and questions .
I will leave all comments and questions anonymous
in order to preserve confidentiality and privacy .
I know some can be helped with this .

God Bless



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